About putative self-defence Contribution
Muñoz Conde, Francisco (2021)
In: Ghanayim, Khalid; Shany, Yuval (Eds.), The quest for core values in the application of legal norms. Essays in honor of Mordechai Kremnitzer, Springer, Cham, pp. 185-199

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“Now look, if you’re defending your house, you don’t have time to think through nine different conditions. You have one condition to protect yourself and your kids,” he said. “And it is wrong for the law, for the police and for judges to apply a complicated, indecipherable legal doctrine against you when you were only doing what is right.”

found at https://www.facebook.com/groups/letstalkalbertaindependence/posts/1868623397069194/, I thinl it is Polievre


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Abused Women Who Kill Their Abusers
A Comparative Perspective on English and German Homicide
Laws and the Need for Reform
Greta Luise Mildenstein  at https://aglawsoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Anglo-German-Law-Journal-2024.pdf

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why the act has to be unlawful at https://download.ssrn.com/07/11/12/ssrn_id1029361_code606737.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjELT%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJGMEQCIGqXMBvdR8x31dpoFPoJ1V3fX4AqztWISVavO6s22J6hAiBUnNim2X%2FawZ9P2ElsgW%2BsnELKgTwRH%2BlkvCrWTIGhyiq9BQgcEAQaDDMwODQ3NTMwMTI1NyIMDK9p%2Fv5hH7pyCnoNKpoFpzwePENDPdNSQzCp5GRnjWsAc0wQHDGmrwsHIt5dBEDW9pBPklnZ6Ha5Qy1rG%2FlK9kA3qV3woGHoOiWqeWPgLqF9mZ1cORLtDKX5i8Q9dKK0Eb3B5JaGnXQVHoK9uMC5mQ0UCGP4vuw1ZMs20MkM%2BN920tvf%2Bhzu2B8MVRoED4SnKQYdsjtF9WW3sS15rnUC0qmPGlKDid7IjvW9G0DYQ7FmP2%2Bej40ajpsREHiNiQNPvju57lVlT%2BV6gQ4H5jjhu9jYKWvXL42ip3k8VRsCuV%2FgNmbsI4HA%2FebYZoN04%2FrOR%2BySTez5Kd%2BzILia%2F6%2BeP5%2BoOdh3TRL0lhvmTAJeS1ZN3ck8SCIVA99ljKVurNgdgJiuMUromu9Y6mNIX2DkITyge9O7UpcLuOA%2BW4rzBUntiZqdts0lBKEu0mLJrayQil372M2ncgou260utkIeJZcH0mrnxtWqEFeajuSZo6oYqqUpdzZbeqVnINJJhwQxv2FqX49MZs1WJKLbX1QlcbAO89xg%2F6tkKmMe8ewjWVFAe2tYpwOrOtWQOrhgrPMLrAhbecLDy%2BjSvVFJCfF%2Fjf6Nzitp3cUg%2Bi6Q%2BHoxkxVjdwel0ZKaKpT7anXIytZcFYP%2BSnaAx9q%2FVyylHFJBH%2Bl0jmVv1qHa43iwgRCI%2B%2Bpqq%2B6rdpLJZxb903aCKT2Bj9HFa04Nn%2BsVVvIYvekPwyk5E0FeOUGysF9BaRKgSNvbeRUOqiMbL181OCLFid204ibQRzq0idYnV479Z9yA5SUFsHZPOReBd%2BeKsZmVO3nk2bv7o8hkdVgZk4Cl54kcDX5lV2tIQWar191BT4MVx3gl8sNDfgsO0ITqt7%2Fc%2B3APSS6bAqZhJXlINg5qDNtD7UyHmsQLQBrOMPPg18UGOrIBP8Dt8TThVGUbEl2bbqlVSVAhfmMxYJIGHmC%2BSXob9E8iYu7YLjkPG2MNeqsYM%2BPmBqqyc80iV0n1lycXFGfO%2FBXoxXhVBAhhGXMOvsCzZvjfu3C9a%2BMTQDJZ0iCr6a3y74Q3j5ncs8%2BCAUFn8XGsxWu1UrolyoKFGuofCgjsBvyA5kCLGr4JOChxyobS%2Fh96ETapdI7IHYwetuk7erwRRA7ZInQ5kSGHab%2BcSB%2F3TAUpQg%3D%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20250901T204112Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUPUUPRWE4FQH6FV7%2F20250901%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=8613ba8ae261c37566319d9dca2e606533a29d022c39b5badebfacf95d83966b&abstractId=1029361
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The Role of Reasonable and Unreasonable Mistake in Justified Defences – A Comparative and Analytical Study

Khalid Ghanayim* at

at (2007) Oxford U Comparative L Forum 3
https://ouclf.law.ox.ac.uk/the-role-of-reasonable-and-unreasonable-mistake-in-justified-defences-a-comparative-and-analytical-study/


"(protection of autonomy and legal order) "



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"Erlaubnistatbestandsirrtum" = an error concerning the factual basis of a justification or permission.
also:
"Erlaubnisisirrtum" (mistake of jutifying ground)
Putativrechtfertigungsgrund



but see at p. 354 of https://www.google.ca/books/edition/German_Legal_System_and_Laws/BkWcAQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Erlaubnistatbestandsirrtum%22&pg=PA354&printsec=frontcover
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based on natural law, see starts at p. 71 of https://pure.aber.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/10857277/Llewelyn_F_H_upd.pdf

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For those who share this worry - for those in search of more stable, consistent, and
transparent roots of reasonableness - we are told to look only as far as our common sense in
determining what is reasonable and, by extension, just. It seems that many scholars who support
a vague conception of reasonableness to ensure flexibility also tend to point to common sense as
demonstrating the obvious limits to its flexibility.33 There is a noticeable tension in this position
as, on the one hand, the vagueness of the standard is excused on the grounds that it requires
reflection to determine what is just, but relies on un-reflective, “obvious” common sense
determinations of its limits, on the other. This is not the only problem with this line of reasoning;
the entire enterprise of relying on common sense as determining the limits of what is reasonable
creates more problems than it solves

thesis at p. 23 of https://dspacemainprd01.lib.uwaterloo.ca/server/api/core/bitstreams/af4738a6-53a2-48b4-915c-6ba325f88447/content

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SEARCH WELLNESS HOMICIDES

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His death also comes amid growing anger and demands for answers, not only in the death of D'Andre Campbell, but also that of Regis Korchinski-Paquet, who fell from her family's Toronto apartment balcony after her family called 911. Her relatives say she was in mental distress at the time. She fell to her death while police officers were in the apartment.

The SIU is investigating the circumstances of both cases. But in neither case was a mobile crisis team deployed to the scene.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ejaz-choudry-1.5622160


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Saamiyah Syed

From Death to Good Health: A Contemporary Revision to Wellness Checks in Toronto
at https://jps.library.utoronto.ca/index.php/society/article/view/38492


In the Greater Toronto Area in 2020, there were at least 4 deaths of individuals after they had contact with the police. This was under the circumstances of wellness checks, or a physical and mental health check-in performed by the police. All instances noted an excessive use of force on behalf of the police which resulted in the death of the subject. What does this say about the way police respond and are trained on wellness checks related to mental health? This paper finds that a medical team should be the first responders of mental health crisis associated with wellness checks. It also acknowledges the need of police as backup reinforcement, and thus suggests a new training program for officers based on communicatory and protectionary tactics. Ideally, both solutions prioritize the safety of the subject and can be well suited for the likes of Toronto City Police and the problem of reoccurring deaths they currently face.---------

Jamie Sarkonak: Home invasion is serious. The law of self-defence should reflect that


Perhaps the country would be more satisfied with a self-defence law that allows residents to defend themselves with force they believe to be subjectively necessary, full stop.


editorial xirca 25 August 2025 at https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jamie-sarkonak-home-invasion-is-serious-the-law-of-self-defence-should-reflect-that

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While intended to help judges and juries, this approach provides less clear guidance than the previous rules, leading to complexity in interpretation and application
https://www.google.ca/search?q=self-defence+law+reform+complexity+&lr=&sca_esv=9c56d715d9c4b9a7&as_qdr=all&biw=1104&bih=570&sxsrf=AE3TifPrZnjEHIpYcHr4pOhiJpL_sHLomA%3A1756063852261&ei=bGiraK_UD-fdptQP4_icgA8&ved=0ahUKEwivuvfQl6SPAxXnrokEHWM8B_A4RhDh1QMIEQ&uact=5&oq=self-defence+law+reform+complexity+&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiI3NlbGYtZGVmZW5jZSBsYXcgcmVmb3JtIGNvbXBsZXhpdHkgMgUQIRigAUiXPlCrB1i5N3ABeACQAQCYAaoBoAHWEaoBBTExLjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIOoALYDcICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAggQABiiBBiJBcICBRAAGO8FwgIEECMYJ8ICBBAhGBXCAgcQIRigARgKmAMAiAYBkAYIkgcEMi4xMqAH6j-yBwQxLjEyuAfGDcIHBTItOS41yAdY&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

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Canadians have a right to self-defence, but the complex section of the Criminal Code that allows it makes it a crapshoot whether someone invoking it will be found to have acted lawfully.

The case of Jeremy McDonald, 44, of Lindsay, Ont., who was charged with aggravated assault and assault with a weapon after he woke up to find an intruder in his apartment early Monday, will be decided by the courts.

But let’s imagine a case where you, a law-abiding person who has never been in such a situation before, are asleep in your bed at night and wake up to find an intruder in your home.

The idea that a confused and panicking law-abiding person who has never been in such a situation before will be capable of going through a mental checklist like this, within seconds, to determine whether their actions in self-defence are “reasonable,” is absurd and should be weighed against the intruder putting himself in harm’s way.

Clearly, Canada’s law on self-defence needs work.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/editorial-self-defence-law-needs-200039339.html
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The Irish Law Reform Commission undertook its review of lethal
defensive force in the context of an evolving reasonableness standard.
But that standard is malleable, and achieves flexibility and simplicity
principally by shifting decision making to non-transparent juries, at the
possible expense of true justice.189  see
189. Legitimate Defence, supra note 83, at § 1.07, at 6.
83. The term ‘legitimate defence’ in Ireland means the “lawful killing of another person n
response to a threat to “private” [the protection of persons or property] or “public” interests.” Law
Reform Commission, Consultation Paper: Legitimate Defence 1 (LRC CP 41-2006)[hereinafter
“Legitimate Defence.”], available at
http://www.lawreform.ie/Legitimate%20Defence%20Consultation%20Paper%20%20Nov%2006.pdf.
The Irish Law Reform Commission was established pursuant to the Law Reform Commission Act of
1975 to continuously review the laws of Ireland with the goal of proposing law reform.
http://www.lawreform.ie/ (last visited July 7, 2008).

see https://download.ssrn.com/08/09/02/ssrn_id1261382_code865180.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEO7%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQCCl1zxG7RoNOf55V8NXStyk9eaeKVjeUaSlArHamT9PgIgOS0GCoo8eteT44ydyvcBiWJFy3%2BHae3aMJ3m5EwezDIqvAUIRxAEGgwzMDg0NzUzMDEyNTciDDqaR1hD9ZNrQQRKwSqZBab0WSTmxAiDffWK%2F%2FgM9nBiRkAPG4%2BJTstXsQEM8crhksLtOFKrabGYdLmMsok8qCjrk6lNI9U2N7BsCLNmH0SAPLPQU8dWnCbGN6cps04GZtfM7ip%2F7UppUGnLXDDyaacOHKRV7qOn1f64yZd7Z%2Fgn%2Bo%2B%2FjG5IW00P4xZYK7cDXT4nJhhgLlUCunM4cs9XGLITj4tjT4lqL1arCr8Ji6Au9kIvJ0uX%2F2Cx79KksnGtk2Bpw%2FOEMOcX9T3YZdRrLVklBK8zScrauGFinbp35RnPiea3Be522SF7twYHxGV83MYh50UWC0e0Al3pDObbZZWn6n8Se%2FvoW3S7Rg95V%2BfRtzr9XkFSgkv79kK1HDrJkWHGBjXc1%2BFV8j%2B1vZsuGE2SLFxCgCxkwcFSdNURnCiAi82CcFarUfsDScNsq6ok0ieree%2FiahmPGW22D9Q4SxII77HW6neesVO3NTw90%2FTG6KFKiMhaoWgCxdTfK%2FWLks4cq7QNlX9NrlmU4%2FUTX9uBcezUBl5K7c5KM2joVCbmYFUE%2FC7WT2BtlxPEKhLdFvik%2B0FkrkEJwPCOE47eKSVvxH%2Fq44fWEROsd%2FfvHEgusZgq0T7O69ajqCEMX3hqZXYWhhTX38%2BNOrDNg%2BNmz55tVgNm5sX4MwaCQ586Zl5dzb0CqYn14OqHSc2HdiSJdtgNHmP8GwdVJ4xIuMi4iF6XPsVXjKH7QbMdIzc8DQRLHsd2NnngxBCI6g2r2brk4EAkHyVGH00NdUUis42zexNPEpBYQ%2Fz96nmoZkn9RVCI2IdgULFo26AtwZ%2F1J4HIzd14VO5iv7AzoCUDg64KyYHffVlnEIWt67ywxwgWHRAaL2AGfB7SHPwIUmJ1uZspJtbJoJWyKplyMK2zrMUGOrEBySAuHzqGiS4Tn3oeuH8egHm41hl9IIRwBtroEyMCxmwBUEWUSpFQM30BSrm3jW1lSwUombu21vc1itojA3bsbyRDia8xwbWizlXo9UtRsdgMqOVgxrMNU51%2BJsCNN9BKus7dIZJ18kSFF50xUGlXgKAx7gLKYIcVXt6okl74cQ1EMCnHzW0I4Sh6KEmsfwu3Nry3M1LAA5MobI2xWs2yt8EVjdSL3Z21RXms7WlaBPbd&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20250824T144601Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUPUUPRWE4BAEFN6B%2F20250824%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=04000c0f7d5c3f8ee7ef4fc51f9cc491f94a3ef3bf7f4febf82766b86e4821a2&abstractId=1189497

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Les articles 529 à 529.5 ont été ajoutés en 1997, créant ainsi une autorité statutaire pour entrer dans un logement :voir https://carnetdroitpenal.ca/fr/index.php?title=Entr%C3%A9e_sans_mandat_dans_un_logement_dans_des_circonstances_exigeantes&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop


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Subject Behavior/ Officer Response (SB/OR) report.

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AI:  "wellness checks" are calls for police to confirm the well-being of an individual, often initiated by family or friends who are unable to reach the person. While the term refers to police assessing a person's health, the outcomes vary, from confirming safety to providing referrals, but can also result in mental health apprehensions or arrests if a crime is involved. These calls are increasingly scrutinized due to concerns about potential harm to vulnerable individuals, especially racialized persons, and the lack of specialized training in mental health response for officers. at https://www.google.ca/search?q=rcmp%22wellness-checks%22&lr=&sca_esv=515a414c30578db2&as_qdr=all&biw=1104&bih=570&sxsrf=AE3TifOadCDNfphO8zfqXNrniTJ1DqD7Vg%3A1756022997109&ei=1ciqaKbHBv6kptQP06aP2Qo&ved=0ahUKEwjmhde3_6KPAxV-kokEHVPTI6sQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=rcmp%22wellness-checks%22&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiFXJjbXAid2VsbG5lc3MtY2hlY2tzIjIEEAAYHjILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIESJoZUNwLWOwVcAF4AJABAJgBaaABgAOqAQMzLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgWgAsUDwgIOEAAYgAQYsAMYhgMYigXCAgsQABiABBiwAxiiBMICCBAAGLADGO8FwgIGEAAYBxgewgIIEAAYBxgIGB7CAgYQABgNGB7CAgUQABjvBcICCBAAGKIEGIkFmAMAiAYBkAYJkgcDMS40oAeRFbIHAzAuNLgHtwPCBwMzLTXIBzs&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
for the request: "rcmp"wellness-checks"

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Google Ai request for "Bellefeuille wellness checks requirements", :AI Overview at https://www.google.ca/search?lr=&sca_esv=515a414c30578db2&as_qdr=all&sxsrf=AE3TifO6GMrdwh4s_M2gPSgFny8MMQ00Zw:1756022463980&q=Bellefeuille+wellness+checks+requirements&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1rru5_aKPAxWJAHkGHYbINak4ChDVAnoECB0QAQ&biw=1104&bih=570&dpr=1.58

There is no known specific set of "Bellefeuille wellness check requirements"; rather, a "wellness check" is a general term for a situation where police are called to verify the wellbeing of an individual who is unreachable or unresponsive, which was the case for Alain Bellefeuille after a neighbour heard what sounded like a gunshot, leading police to enter his home without announcing themselves. The specific requirements for these checks depend on the policing jurisdiction and the circumstances of the call, with the goal of confirming the person's safety and wellbeing.

What a wellness check involves:
What is NOT a standard requirement:
  • While the current system often involves police, mental health advocates suggest non-police crisis response teams, such as mental health nurses or peer workers, could handle these calls instead.
    • Police Intervention and Wellness Checks
      Jul 22, 2020
      www .publicsafety .gc .ca CTVNews, April 14, 2025 **In May 2023, after hearing over his .. Apr 15, 2025 — The defence argues police should have done more to identify themselves. “ As far as the wellness check, it's not simpl...Facebook · The Valley Spreader
    • Bellefeuille's lawyer calls out absence of evidence, motive
    • May 21, 2025 — The police call to Bellefeuille's home was actually a wellness check after a neighbour thought he may have killed hims...
    • ttawa CitizenShow allAI responses may include mistakes. Learn morel
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    Wellness chcks...por procedure at https://ca.news.yahoo.com/bellefeuille-unresponsive-crying-shooting-opp-023211639.html

    Wellness checks

    gun out

    Lauzon was the officer who went in first, announcing police and calling out Alain by name twice. Lauzon had his pistol drawn as he entered the door for the mental-health call. Mueller’s pistol never left its holster and was gunned down in seconds.

    The OPP’s mobile crisis response team, which includes health professionals, is designed to de-escalate at wellness checks.

    That unit didn’t work the night shift.



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    Wellness checks no training! see https://ottawacitizen.com/news/opp-officer-punched-cop-killer

    It was a wellness check, but the OPP’s mobile crisis unit didn’t work the night shift, so it was just police who responded to the report of a potential suicide.

    Article content

    The arresting officer, and fellow officer Lauzon, noted the porch light came on and figured this was key because it suggested Bellefeuille was up and had turned the light on.

    Article content

    But the police dispatcher had earlier relayed information that it was a motion-detection light. Mihuta told the court he couldn’t recall that dispatch.

    Article content

    In a cross-examination, Mihuta said he had never heard of “knock and announce” before Russomanno asked him about it on Monday. The officer, who has since been promoted, also testified that police don’t have to announce their presence until they enter a home. He also testified that he had no specific training for wellness checks and said every case is different.

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    The trial continued on Tuesday.


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    In 2019, the Alberta legislature passed the Trespass Statutes (Protecting Law-Abiding Property Owners) Amendment Act, 2019,[6] in response to rising rural crime, public concern with police inaction and several high-profile self-defense shootings the previous year.[7][8] Especially influential was the case of Edouard Maurice, who wounded a trespasser and was served with a lawsuit after having criminal charges against him dropped.[7]

    The new Act amended the Occupiers Liability Act, 2000 and added the following sections:

    (2) Where a trespasser is not a

    see wikipedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law

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    Alan Brudner super good article at https://utoronto.scholaris.ca/server/api/core/bitstreams/c314fdca-9686-4114-88fc-1786aef9b03f/content

    Alan Brudner * CONSTITUTIONALIZING SELF-DEFENCE , 2011 u of Toronto law Journal
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    An interesting case in Picked the Wrong Cars:
    A Comment on R. v.Theriault, R. v. Khill,
    and the Initial Aggressor
    Kenneth Grad at

    https://download.ssrn.com/21/02/05/ssrn_id3779999_code4357742.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjELj%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJIMEYCIQCRZW%2BrNflBQYUdYMTyedUl8sGiaPMcbOBH9c5e6SDXVgIhAIggjG%2B6YEjMD9eIwdadhNJzyh6KIkEg9ND5tMfgsIncKrwFCBAQBBoMMzA4NDc1MzAxMjU3IgxRKCLx5hUtFxTNQzwqmQWT3pnxgtqEYkMTsru%2FYKoe%2B03LZUGgB1JuiKgU%2Bk5ekzMH0HcQMqz8ZcbKcCEOr%2FvGT4lJ%2FmXSbxPA6gb5Sa54wycKGlz%2BZkx7huVaE7mZPy6PxxFZxuHYPGI10CRCeqCy494KrbDPi8BCKgeDCnlAwvOBrkqS0cmQ6A5nAfD3GAjyky3jQPVrLX%2BtHnSmjg8kN78eRipHzgQdc532%2BpSZUgqeYYHEURZWlbIj02xEbv1xhF7Cl%2FPBtw%2BSYd1EBg6VfgOgafRFyC%2FN%2F%2BMtJ9bvBFMrKTrdoV6sBJuc%2FNUXsQg3JbAOcCTrhkFjeImUG8tBQ12UO%2Fij7c%2BXzA3Xj%2B1ONnaAQKDfOo5Dn90tcn%2BeLf%2FkgJKMUbCfGnldahas6OSjjI8Aw5rDC0hmcsZXttWSNckgsMVzhYqudB2emQ9SNUIRMt7f93CcUMTf7CvAATrBShpr7n2qKKcFgEbSqSoaUiLwXPcyjGwEyTI7uTwOkEC5R9QnxPXjbUqjn%2FD%2FUh4u2AkEHciJO0KHbh1NRmb1MrTPtWf50zg65D1H%2BJ4LCyfDtArGlE4OhJkUbubHz4nzMS58cV3IC%2BTj4D6qmbF3M0LTp9NHmZf9NWgG0YA5HaRrvDFD2kltoNAEdgGwKo1mcNSvWjLctgJ98gTJdRoiFl2qVQqzJwe3UPAzer3C8BKBXyJ%2Bk6VStvrRE9lVfnhTkdmSXOtiBlmEnk9FimycQQ0vVW2JJT5QctqJJAkYmkD0ElbwGE%2BKqrRBKEu%2FjWOSQWn1qt31OJ9%2BfJgSDRBlXORcGEnzG5PAA3DBBICjPKgqlYtoa63xKLf%2BWoV%2FJd4Q0Ywylznkd5wXiDXqhdJ9sUV5Q7OEI6cUkmPGgOPVPQeRcEaaru%2FRczC0s6DFBjqwAfb5Qd%2Bv3MvKSkZ6IK3bzIxCFHt%2BVs5z6iKig2xmvC52GnrtvQGVv1JwjLnmXBYp9r9julLGJ%2FSCXLGjfApPS%2BKK4Ea2c%2B6x08%2F3t%2Bcy%2BtIIq5o7ZN8hg%2Fj1mU4UEX8TN%2BpKQOiJcvC84MJyA1M%2FFkzEd2ADAceA%2BRzIwkBFwwDTWP%2FlbRMJ6ElP9XXW9ARDgenkDOebBRhSOc%2FCch%2BbV9G0Io%2B%2FuHoWaOCFSE9NGdER&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20250822T083218Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUPUUPRWESRUC6XFR%2F20250822%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=6310de86dfe938da378edcb300d9b1326cf6de22193ec2362f09033bdc1dc385&abstractId=3779999

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    Note: The Supreme Court of Canada interpreted the new Criminal Code self-defence provision in R v Khill, 2021 SCC 37. There, the majority (per Martin J) stated that the new provision “changed the law of self-defence in significant ways by broadening the scope and application of self-defence and employing a multifactorial reasonableness standard” (para 39). Further, “the defence is now more open and flexible and additional claims of self-defence will be placed before triers of fact” (para 44).


    see source at: https://www.nji-inm.ca/index.cfm/publications/model-jury-instructions/defences/self-defence-in-force/defence-34-self-defence/?langSwitch=en
    IMPORTANT the footrnotes as it is from the National Institute of Justice

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    in 21 August 2025, discovered the case of https://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcca/doc/2015/2015bcca46/2015bcca46.pdf that  is the case of R. v. Evans (BC CA) in 2013 decided if prospective and makes difference beteween old and new self defence provision, elements of prepoderence and alternatives; see also discussion at https://www.yorku.ca/osgoode/thecourt/2015/02/21/the-paradox-of-certainty-retrospective-application-of-new-self-defence-provisions-in-r-v-evans/

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    The court heard that Bellefeuille is Algonquin, with status through the Alliance Autochtone du Québec. Bellefeuille said he learned of his heritage in his mid-twenties and grew up cut off from that part of his identity. “It’s not uncommon for our traditions to get lost over time,” he said. While incarcerated, he has taken part in smudging ceremonies and healing circles. at https://ottawacitizen.com/news/bellefeuille-testifies-killed-opp-officer

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    Indigenous man on trial for murder, at https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/i-curse-u-for-all-eternity-what-the-jury-never-heard-at-alain-bellefeuille-s-trial-1.7541199

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    SIU investigation at https://thereview.ca/2023/09/17/no-criminal-offence-committed-by-opp-officer-who-used-firearm-in-bourget/

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    Technical guide 2013

    https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/pdf/c26.pdf

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    AI Overview
    The Federal/Provincial/Territorial (FPT) Working Group on Self-Defence was
    a joint effort by federal, provincial, and territorial justice officials to develop legislative reforms for self-defence in Canada. This working group was central to the creation of the self-defence provisions in Bill C-26, whose recommendations were accepted by FPT Justice Ministers in 2009. The group's work also led to a guide developed by the Department of Justice and provincial officials, which reflects the common understanding of the FPT Justice officials regarding the new self-defence laws. 
    Key aspects of the Federal/Provincial/Territorial (FPT) Working Group on Self-Defence:


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    Fletcher Basic conduct rules on self-defence putative conduct rules and decision  see https://pdfcoffee.com/george-p-fletcher-basic-concepts-of-criminal-law-1998-pdf-free.html  at page circa

    see also Meir Dan-Cohen, Decision Rules and Conduct Rules: On Acoustic Separation in Criminal Law, 97 Harv. L. Rev. 625 (1984) at https://lawcat.berkeley.edu/record/1112012?ln=en&v=pdf

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    vagueness and reasonableness

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    Steve Coughlan, “The Rise and Fall of Duress: How Duress Changed Necessity Before Be-
    ing Excluded by Self-Defence” (2013) 39:1 Queen’s LJ 83 [Coughlan, “Rise and Fall”]; Colton

    Fehr, “The (Near) Death of Duress” (2015) 62: 1 & 2 Crim LQ 123

    85C. Fehr
    Self-Defence and the Constitution
    Colton Fehr at https://journal.queenslaw.ca/sites/qljwww/files/Issues/Vol%2043%20i1/4.%20Fehr.pdf
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    2008
    Done Nothing Wrong: Fundamental Justice and the MinimumDone Nothing Wrong: Fundamental Justice and the Minimum
    Content of Criminal LawContent of Criminal Law
    Alan N. YoungOsgoode Hall Law School of York University, ayoung@osgoode.yorku.ca
    https://digitalcommons.osgoode.yorku.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1123&context=sclr
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    May 13, 2022
    ... self-defence, defence of property and citizen's arrest were among the federal priorities identified in the 2011 Speech from the Throne.


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    HUMBER VALLEY , Newfoundland and Labrador, October 13, 2006

    Self Defence Provisions in the Criminal Code

    Ministers agreed it was time to review the self-defence sections of the Criminal Code and directed officials to examine proposals to clarify the law and bring back recommendations .

    https://scics.ca/en/product-produit/news-release-federal-provincial-and-territorial-ministers-responsible-for-justice-make-commitments-to-strengthen-criminal-justice-system/

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    Bill C-60


    Legislative summary at 30 March 2011 at https://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/394812/publication.html

    Also before Bill C-26, there was Bill C-60, died on the order paper, first raeding 17 February 2011 at https://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/en/bill/40-3/c-60


    MInister stated second reading:

    "I am pleased to report that the proposed reforms on self-defence are consistent with those agreed to in 2009 by federal, provincial and territorial ministers responsible for justice based on the collective work of their officials"
    4 March 2011 at https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/40-3/house/sitting-139/hansard#3781846

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    Bonjour,

    I have just read your article "Licence to Khill: What Appellate Decisions Reveal About Canada's New Self-Defence Law" and your website states that you have a current research project on this topic.

    The drafting of s. 34 had the battered wife syndrome in mind.  The 2013 guide of the Department of Justice, updated in 2023,  was written for prosecutors and the police.  

    For me s. 34 is the victory of flat thinking (reasonableness) over structured articulation of the defence with its principles of unlawfulness, imminence, necessity and proportionality. 

    In "Codes and Codifications: Interpretation, Structure, and Arrangement of Codes", published at (1990) 2 Criminal Law Forum 127, Patrick Fitzgerald wrote :

     Who are the criminal code's intended readers?  The people governed by it - the public as Bentham thought?

     Those who have to administer and explain it - the legal profession and the agencies of justice - as lawyers
     tend to think?  Those surveying its logic, coherence, and systematization - jurists and legal scientists?
     Or since codes start life as bills, those who are asked to enact it - the legislators?   Or,  finally, some
     combination of the above?

    Surely Bentham was right.  A country's law belongs not to its nation's judges, its lawyers, or its politicians
    but to all its inhabitants and citizens.  The latter are surely the prime addressees of codes, statutes, and
    other legislation.  This conclusion follows from the basic values and concepts of the common law itself.
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    - Reforming Criminal Code Defences: Provocation, Self-defence and Defence of
    Property: A Consultation Paper (Ottawa: Department of Justice, 1998)
    - Section 34 from Bill C-26
    HofC & Senate in 2011 and 2012, see https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/41-1/c-26
    First reading on 22 November 2011
    2012, c. 9, s. 2 at https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/annualstatutes/2012_9/  ...Assented to 2012-06-28l
    came into force 11 March 2013

    Lynn Ratushny. 1999−2019 Superior Court of Justic


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    R. v. Khill SCC on 2021at https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/19020/index.do



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    Bill C-26 (S.C. 2012 c. 9)
    Reforms to Self-Defence and
    Defence of Property:
    Technical Guide for Practitioners

    at https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/index.html

    dated March 2013


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    Introduction

    This  article is about Alain Bellefeuille who killed a policeman, was convicted of first degree murder and got life imprisonment without parole eligibility for 25 years.  He was also convicted of other charges and also sentenced for them. 

    Both the accused and the Crown are appealing.

    I am not on the Bellefeuille side nor on the Crown side.

    The case concerns me, as a citizen, and the general public.

    To begin this introduction, I am proud to cite a philosopher Patrick Fitgerald.  Patrick wrote an article "Codes and Codifications: Interpretation, Structure, and Arrangement of Codes", published at (1990) 2 Criminal Law Forum 127.  In  the article, there is a part that has influenced my thinking; it's about about criminal codes, codification and the prime users of them.  It also refers to another philosopher  Jeremy Bentham.  Philosophy makes you think.   here is a field
    of knowledge in law, its called "philosophy of law".  Well its time to read the famous part:

     
    Who are the criminal code's intended readers?  The people governed by it - the public as Bentham thought?
     Those who have to administer and explain it - the legal profession and the agencies of justice - as lawyers
     tend to think?  Those surveying its logic, coherence, and systematization - jurists and legal scientists?
     Or since codes start life as bills, those who are asked to enact it - the legislators?   Or,  finally, some
     combination of the above?

    Surely Bentham was right.  A country's law belongs not to its nation's judges, its lawyers, or its politicians
    but to all its inhabitants and citizens.  The latter are surely the prime addressees of codes, statutes, and
    other legislation.  This conclusion follows from the basic values and concepts of the common law itself.

    This case is about subsection 34 of the Criminal Code.  It's not called self-defence or "légitime défense" but  "Defence of the Person" or "Défense de la personne".  I will only quote subsection (1) and (2) but there is also a subsection (3) if you want to read more about the defence.  It is a bit long and complicated but if you are a citizen...this is the law you muts know if you want to use self-defence.
     
    Defence — use or threat of force Défense

    34 (1) A person is not guilty of an offence if
    (a) they believe on reasonable grounds that force is
    being used against them or another person or that a
    threat of force is being made against them or another
    person;

    (b) the act that constitutes the offence is committed
    for the purpose of defending or protecting themselves
    or the other person from that use or threat of force;
    and

    (c) the act committed is reasonable in the circum-
    stances.

    (2) In determining whether the act committed is reason-
    able in the circumstances, the court shall consider the
    relevant circumstances of the person, the other parties
    and the act, including, but not limited to, the following
    factors:

    (a) the nature of the force or threat;

    (b) the extent to which the use of force was imminent
    and whether there were other means available to re-
    spond to the potential use of force;

    (c) the person’s role in the incident;
    (d) whether any party to the incident used or threat-
    ened to use a weapon;

    (e) the size, age, gender and physical capabilities of
    the parties to the incident;

    (f) the nature, duration and history of any relation-
    ship between the parties to the incident, including any
    prior use or threat of force and the nature of that force
    or threat;

    (f.1) any history of interaction or communication be-
    tween the parties to the incident;

    (g) the nature and proportionality of the person’s re-
    sponse to the use or threat of force; and

    (h) whether the act committed was in response to a
    use or threat of force that the person knew was lawful.

    Sorry Canadians, if you are using the "Defence of the person provision

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    wellness check: versus search warrant....legality of the entry.....

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    Defence of the Person" by Keith R. Hamilton, March 1991,
    Criminal [Code] Recodification Task force, Discussion Papers (sometimes called  Working Papers) commissioned by the Task Force, as listed in Principles of criminal liability : proposals for a new General Part of the Criminal Code of Canada : report of  the Canadian Bar Association Criminal Recodification Task Force, supra, pp. 189-190; Notes: only published in English / seulement disponible en anglais;
    http://www.lareau-law.ca/CBA4--Hamilton.pdf
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     When you have time Francois, you should read Kent Roach, “A Preliminary Assessment of the New Self-Defence and Defence of Property Provisions” (2012) 16 Can Crim L Rev 275 at 279.

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    When you have time, should read the article Gerry Ferguson and Benjamin L Berger, “Recent Developments in Canadian Criminal Law” (2013) 37 Crim LJ 315 at 321.
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    Vanessaf A. MacDonnell, The New Self-Defence law: Progressive DeveloPment or STaTuS Quo? ", (2013) 92 Canadian Bar Review 301-326 at file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/_jmacgreg,+Journal+manager,+14766_Vol092_014-1.pdf

    Vanessa.MacDonnell@uOttawa.ca, Associate Professor and Co-Director, uOttawa Public Law Centre, https://www.uottawa.ca/faculty-law/common-law/faculty/macdonnell-vanessa

    Many of the factors that the trier of fact must consider
    in assessing reasonableness are familiar features of the law of self-defence,
    including imminence, proportionality, and whether the accused had other
    options available to him or her. The difference between the old and the new
    provisions is that these features are no longer absolute requirements or
    barriers to making out self-defence. They are “merely … factor[s] that must
    be considered in determining whether any act of self-defence is reasonable
    in the circumstances.”12
    12 Roach, ibid at 277
    [p. 304]


    Finally, in 1998, the federal government released Reforming Criminal
    Code Defences: Provocation, Self-defence and Defence of Property: A
    Consultation Paper. 55 As the executive summary made clear, the
    consultation paper “[did] not reflect government policy” but was merely
    “intended to generate discussion on the issues raised.” The consultation
    paper was largely structured around the formulations of self-defence
    articulated in the Self-Defence Review and in the 1993 White Paper. [p. 311]



    The most distinctive feature of the new section 34 is the list of factors that triers
    of fact must consider in determining whether the accused’s actions were
    reasonable in the circumstances. This approach to self-defence was
    recommended by A Feminist Review of Criminal Law, the Self-Defence
    Review, and by What Would a Women’s Law of Self-Defence Look Like?
    [p. 311]

    The new section 34 requires judges and juries to engage in a Lavallee-
    style contextual analysis of all self-defence claims. [p. 317]

    n this paper I have suggested that the new law of self-defence aligns
    closely with feminist law reform efforts and with the Supreme Court’s
    decision in Lavallee [p. 325-326]


    Elizabeth SHEEHY, "What would a Women's Law of Self-Defence Look Like?", Ottawa: Status of Women Canada, 1995, available at
    Emeritus Professor, University of Ottawa,Elizabeth.Sheehy@uOttawa.ca, and retired in 1998 see cv at https://www.uottawa.ca/faculty-law/common-law/faculty/sheehy-elizabeth

    Christine Boyle, Marie-Andrée Bertrand, Céline Lacerte-Lamontagne and Rebecca Shamai "A Feminist Review of Criminal Law", 1985, Ottawa: Status of
    Women Canada, 1985)



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    July 25, 1997, Stephen Bindman in an article, "Bureaucrats 'scorned' judge's  report",  affirms that Judge Ratushny who wrote the report, Self Defence Review: Final Report Submitted to the Minister of Justice Canada and to the Solicitor General of Canada wrote a letter to the Minister of Justice and the Solicitor General of Canada critizing senior bucreaucrta's attitudes towards her work:

        "Judge Lybn Ratushny of Ontario Court (provincial division) said she encountered a 'general attitude of resistance, distrust and antipathy' among senior officials during her recently completed review.
    ......

        In the letter, she cited several examples of resistance from officials that she fears will affect their advice on her recommendations to the new ministers:
    ...

    Officials appeared to be more concerned about what provincial prosecutors thought of the self-defence claims than her own views. 'I find this apparent preference for the views of the prosecutors surprising' she commented."111a



    111a=
    111a. BINDMAN, Stephen, "Bureaucrats 'scorned' judge's probe: Federal Justice Department officials undermined inquiry, judge charges", The Ottawa Citizen, 25 July 1997, pp. A1-A2, at p. A1.

    in Chronology Towards a Modern General Part at https://www.lareau-legal.ca/chronologie_.html#111a
     


    SIDNEY BIDMAN at https://www.uottawa.ca/faculty-law/common-law/faculty/bindman-stephen

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    Self Defence Review, Self Defence Review - Final Report Submitted to the Minister of Justice Canada and to the Solicitor General of Canada,  [Ottawa]: [Self-Defence Review?], 11 July 1997, 234 p. at pp. 153-157 (Chair: Judge Lynn Ratushny).  On the internet at: "http://toscane.crdp.umontreal.ca/publications/defence/rtush_en.html"; also available at http://web.archive.org/web/19971012095129/canada.justice.gc.ca/Publications/defence/rtush_en.html (accessed on 28 September 2009) and at https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/lbrr/archives/ke%208839%20r3%201997-eng.pdf
    ; also available in French / aussi disponible en françaisExamen de la légitime défense - Rapport final - Présenté au Ministre de la Justice du Canada et au Solliciteur général du Canda, [Ottawa], [Examen de la légitime défense?], 11 juillet 1997, disponible à  c à http://web.archive.org/web/19971012100413/canada.justice.gc.ca/Publications/defence/rtush_fr.html (vérifié le 28 septembre 2009);

    report also available at https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/lbrr/archives/ke%208839%20r3%201997-eng.pdf

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    Bonjour Ms. Klineberg,
    email 21 July 2025

    I am a former Department of Justice lawyer having worked in the Criminal law section in the eighties.  I am now retired but I still
    enjoy doing some theoretical research on criminal law.  

    Because of the proceedings before the HofC on Bill C-26 in 2011 and 2012,  I know that you are very knowledgeable on the origins of the drafting on section 34 of the Criminal Code on the defence of the person.

    Would you allow me to ask you some questions on that section to orient my research?    It may be that you cannot help me, but I least I will have tried.  I did my 1992 LL.M. thesis on self-defence (ruor.uottawa.ca/items/d22a50a8-e2cb-48eb-8d86-1b0217ef42fc)


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    Noah Weisbord, Who’s Afraid of the Lucky Moose? Canada’s Dangerous Self-Defence Innovation, 2018 CanLIIDocs 11057 
    at https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/doc/2018CanLIIDocs11057#!fragment/zoupio-_Tocpdf_bk_1/BQCwhgziBcwMYgK4DsDWszIQewE4BUBTADwBdoAvbRABwEtsBaAfX2zhoBMAzZgI1TMAjAEoANMmylCEAIqJCuAJ7QA5KrERCYX
    AnmKV6zdt0gAynlIAhFQCUAogBl7ANQCCAOQDC9saTB80KTsIiJAA

    also at

    2018 64-2 McGill Law Journal 349


    N. Weisbord97
    Licence to Khill: What Appellate Decisions Reveal About Canada’s New Self-Defence Law--- copyright 2020
    Noah Weisbord* at https://download.ssrn.com/2025/5/15/5254856.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEDsaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJIMEYCIQCX5NBA8gOwk2ks7NdfW5w4sU6neSSBo1dwT8riPX4fAgIhAOH6l0d6Wy%2FbUZRxOlv9hrw7YANkunfiWXlZTZfQEc9HKr4FCGQQBBoMMzA4NDc1MzAxMjU3Igx8Y%2F2cup4MC%2FKy0nwqmwX0q4jLhApVqjlBHAeZO2FzjRKjxkIMdcmbmd4q%2FaKSLkUpAmIoeRg6ViiZSHj6lQO3M4tPrVCFT2xj8KwKm4Rk74ViTe4luLB4%2FQ9bxmO5lyFF8EUaqMOPeMtGwRsoMn2TvPe9LLLCwHRLBMiFzQXPQGxYiNHbpf93Yv0r7riyfB0Am67bpBzOVwwpWmHevtHWGpXllhU8ONY0o%2FAgPS6Hb%2BudwIeBchZ03TspQDJIdWZYet8bV2yxyfmzM%2FFy1WVbaot7USeSWkn%2B8oILqfYwN3bRzB5FrIMyP4LuV3oL3AuEscdQJ8NCvrIJtbf119CXBa5HBeZAsB4kdq4tJXtqT%2BT4%2B%2FtNY%2FqU4Rwjyjqoqe%2F34sY22Gxa9XBgFZZVQqivkP%2FrbO1ex5ZM%2Bb%2B5K0mNZtqhcZzZ%2FRVA4D3CvyoQchmd%2BjeLFq5zwA1Wz61ykBgWq2b5WasLWHLEdFQ76Sp%2BaN%2Bgo4Eri5Hh4a50o8c1Ldw2binIw8IrX33Z4QX%2BMWewlLfg2GweCeQXJyFHoYenSF5CwBGkLc9%2Byp4udOVzW2%2FxdYY36njlJP2Jg89GBzlGkm7UFD%2FSQK1E18daZ1Gv61buL2Y%2BBhIFwSWf86NeDPwFLhZE7Cn2FI5XjBCS6ZacxpYPgK22fBNQYx2gHIFJ6xU29cOs70EhP%2BqDJ65QeHwBJuCM0jO3%2B%2BnsC4pyfvNqZsPixR4HjtaM%2B%2BNlX5GCQu52WeqwFomtmODVb0oAV4MLDSQtDBfb6FrbEQiXZ33YdPCRwhSLCZkAwEviVj6dgETFhjaqFyLExgUNLZJNo11j4ji4%2BUhtLPUQw22xspPx%2FUV6lVo5hSm%2FAQBgp8GyweLQGyO5CTHIMevEgk%2BXykByTwX5WBO5h%2BIjMOO5lMQGOrABROQ1XvRJE2IwStXeDxnlDCFmX1DlRH5Tu66yRqBH8H2r7aMquiBdljWVLwZN3w5lorD8J8Ek4FgPH8U9yGQ5iuBYRbBxJihKAeQhRW0C9%2FhM9Wpm4B8QrP0qy73mwmquCxGVxa2WMGsdZcpNjqf11YRBB4nZoDPtcZ4BOdGU7d%2BdSeSOqwH3ApNc4mouSomUWOjoOWM%2FsPkr%2FMPtkTfN7DAyxZj2BhX8ry4yNAAEnlc%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20250726T184028Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUPUUPRWEYWMGGPIP%2F20250726%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=481ef2e22bef99d9702107140f4373eaa6302a63255864bd5aebb9a892161873&abstractId=5254856,

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    Dubber at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228244890_Comparative_Criminal_Law
    chapter 40, Comparative Criminal law.

    (d) Principle of Legality (nulla poena sine lege)
    The principle of legality may be widely recognized for its importance. But it means
    radically dierent things to dierent legal systems. In US law, for instance, the
    legality principle tends to be vaguely associated with two constitutional prin-
    ciplesthe prohibition of ex post facto and vague criminal laws. The former
    appears in the federal constitution; the latter has been derived from the general due
    process guarantee in the federal bill of rights. Both have developed haphazardly
    and still await integration into a systematic view of criminal law.
    For instance, the constitutional ex post facto prohibition applies to all laws,
    including non-criminal ones. Its limitation to criminal laws, which has long been
    taken for granted, was read into the provisionin dictum, and with very little
    analysisby a late eighteenth-century US Supreme Court decision in a civil matter
    that remains the leading case on retroactivity in American criminal law, and to this
    day is not merely cited, but extensively quoted, in virtually every judicial, and for
    that matter scholarly, discussion of retroactivity.71
    Specicity. Vagueness doctrine has suered from a similar lack of attention. While
    it is ordinarily treated as a (Fifth Amendment) due process requirement that pre-
    sumably would apply to all criminal laws, US courts often struggle to distinguish it
    from specicity requirements based on (First Amendment) concerns about state
    interference with protected speech that would apply only to criminal statutes that
    prohibit speech. Even when the due process foundation of the vagueness prohi-
    bition is clear enough, courts often misunderstand it. A vagueness case, for
    instance, may well strike down a criminal law statute not because it fails to provide

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    En effet, il est un principe bien établi en droit canadien que « nul ne peut être condamné ou puni pour un acte ou une omission qui n’est pas clairement interdit par une loi valide »13. La jurisprudence reconnaît évidemment que la précision absolue des textes infractionnels relève de l’utopie et qu’une certaine souplesse est de mise dans l’étude du caractère imprécis d’une disposition législative14. Les tribunaux se voient dès lors attribuer la difficile tâche d’interpréter et de circonscrire la portée d’innombrables infractions qui encadrent la vie en société. Considérant les conséquences juridiques substantielles qu’est susceptible d’encourir le militaire déclaré coupable de conduite déshonorante, soit une peine d’emprisonnement maximale de cinq ans15, il nous apparaissait important d’examiner cette infraction de manière approfondie, tant dans son interprétation juridique que dans son application judiciaire. Nous tenterons d’y parvenir en deux temps.

    11Ibid aux para 148–9.
    12R c Cogswell, 2021 CM 2021 au para 42 [Cogswell (CM 2021)]; R c ex-Adjudant JAG Deschamps, 2009 CM 1013 au para 7 [JAG Deschamps].
    13R c Levkovic, 2013 CSC 25 au para 1 [Levkovic]; R c Mabior, 2012 CSC 47 au para 14; R c Renaud, 2019 CM 4021 au para 58.
    14R c Nova Scotia Pharmaceutical Society, [1992] 2 RCS 606 aux pp 626–7.

    Revue du Barreau Nicolas rioux, L'infraction militaire (2025) à https://cbr.cba.org/index.php/cbr/article/view/5006/4591



     








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    The New Self-DefeNce law: ProgreSSive
    DeveloPmeNT or STaTuS Quo?
    Vanessa A MacDonnell ---Canadian Bar Review at file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/_jmacgreg,+Journal+manager,+14766_Vol092_014.pdf



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    From Kilias in his book Précis de droit pénal général

    nullum crimen, nullz poena sine lege (p. 114)

    art 7(1) Eurepean Convention of human rights

    découle la maxime selon laquelle une loi pénale doit avoir un contenu clairement défini "das Besttimmtheitsgebot")



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    From Dublin
    Consultation Paper on Legitimate Defence (LRC CP 41-2006)
    https://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/consultation%20papers/cpLegitimateDefence.pdf

    3. One of the values underpinning codification is the principle of legality.
    The principle of legality is described as “the idea that conduct should not be
    punished as criminal unless it has been clearly and precisely prohibited by
    the terms of a pre-existing rule of law.”5 A failure to specify rules of
    acceptable conduct clearly exposes accused persons to “the vagaries of
    juries” and to “gusts of public opinion”.6 The principle of legality is of the
    utmost importance in cases of homicide  p. 1


    As noted in the Report of the Expert Group on Codification, the general
    principles of criminal liability need to be defined in a manner which is
    compatible with the principle of legality and “citizens are entitled to clear
    notice as to what the law expects of them and to be given a fair opportunity
    to act in conformity with its provisions”.7 In particular, the justification
    defences, which permit the use of force- particularly lethal force, should be
    comprehensively defined since they seek to set out the limits of what a
    citizen may and may not lawfully do.


    One of the principal motivations for the adoption of the
    reasonableness approach seems to have been the noble pursuit of greater
    simplicity within the criminal law. Central to this aim has been the anxiety
    as to whether juries are readily able to comprehend the law as it is directed to
    them by trial judges. However, it is arguable that this drive for simplicity
    fails to recognise that criminal offending can often not be understood in a
    simple theoretical context; rather the law must reflect the complex reality of
    the world of human interaction and therefore must be sufficiently elaborate
    to reflect the many variables that make up criminal liability. If the
    simplification of the law results in a test that offers juries little guidance,
    then it may be questioned whether their job has been made any easier or
    whether difficult questions of law and policy have merely been transferred
    behind the closed door of the jury-room. Such a result would be unfair not
    only to juries, but also to accused persons and the public at large. Whilst it
    is crucial that juries play a central role in the criminal justice system,
    precedence should be granted in the area in which they are most competent,
    namely in relation to assessing credibility of testimony and other evidence
    and weighing up and deciding on matters of fact. p. 6

    However, others argue that, particularly where liability for serious
    offences is concerned, it is of the utmost importance that the rules of conduct
    are clearly stated. This view is based on the “principle of legality”; namely,
    “the idea that conduct should not be punished as criminal unless it has been
    clearly and precisely prohibited by the terms of a pre-existing rule of law.”2
    Whilst the principle is usually associated with offences, it seems equally
    applicable to the definition of those defences which seek to set limits to what
    the citizen may or may not lawfully do. On this reasoning, a defender “is
    entitled to fair warning as to the limits of any possible criminal sanction”.3
    The aim of a “threshold test”, therefore, is to define the ambit of legitimate
    defence with maximum certainty. Whether this aim is valid, and indeed
    whether it is achievable, is the subject of this chapter p. 12




    Fom Dublin
    REPORT -- Dec 2009 -- Law Reform Comission Report --www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/reports/rdefencesincriminallaw.pdf

    Where, however, a defence is described as justificatory, such as
    legitimate defence, it is extremely important that the precise ingredients of that
    defence are clearly set out. While all defences, whether based on “justification”
    or “excuse” should be clear in terms of their content and scope, it is crucial that
    the nature and scope of a justification-based defence should be set out in the
    clearest possible language
    (p.5

    Each of the defences concerns
    16 See Chalmers Criminal Defences and Pleas in Bar of Trial (Thomson, 2006) at
    Chapter 1.
    17 See further McAuley & McCutcheon Criminal Liability (Roundhall Sweet &
    Maxwell, 2000).
    6
    situations where a person acts in response to some external factor, whether the
    actions or words of another person or the circumstances in which the person
    finds themselves. In the case of legitimate defence, defendants act in response
    to unlawful force by another person in order to protect themselves, or someone
    else (such as a family member) or their home.
    (pp. 5-6)

    However, if legislators expect citizens to acquaint themselves with
    the contours of criminal law they have a duty to make laws clear and consistent.
    The law on defences, as already noted, has been marred by inconsistency and
    a lack of clear guidelines. In that respect, the Commission has approached this
    Report with a view to providing an increased level of clarity and coherence
    (p. 17)

     Legitimate use of force represents a balance between the needs of
    an ordered society and the right of individuals to ensure their own protection.3
    By providing for this, the criminal law respects the autonomy of the individual.4
    p. 26

    ******2.09 As already indicated above where, as in The People (Attorney
    General) v Dwyer,6 disproportionate or excessive force was used because the
    accused is mistaken in his or her perception of the threat or the use of force he
    or she faced, the law cannot justify this, but may take the view that while the
    killing is unlawful the force used can, in part, be excused, resulting in a
    conviction for manslaughter rather than murder.
    p. 27

    ****The proposed codification process is important for another reason.
    The 2004 Report of the Expert Group on Codification of the Criminal Law17
    stated that general principles of criminal liability need to be defined in a manner
    which is compatible with the principal of legality and “citizens are entitled to
    clear notice as to what the law expects of them and to be given a fair
    opportunity to act in conformity with its provisions”. This is especially important
    for justificatory defences. The lawful use of force should be clearly defined so
    that citizens are aware what they may and may not lawfully do. In the words of
    Ashworth, “legal certainty is important from the point of view of producing
    consistent and principled court decisions, as well as guiding the conduct of
    citizens p. 31

    *****In general, the current test for the use of legitimate force has been
    based on „reasonableness‟. The general direction for juries has been based on
    a question of whether the „response‟ by the defendant was reasonable. In the
    Consultation Paper, the Commission was of the opinion that although this
    approach has its merits, in terms of being a term easily understood, it is too
    vague and unstructured. The Commission took the view that the substantive
    requirements traditionally embedded in the defence, namely a minimum
    threshold requirement, imminence, necessity and proportionality must be
    incorporated into the law on legitimate defence. In the Commission‟s view,
    these would help to achieve certainty in this area. IMPORTANT p. 31


    Placing these requirements on a specific legislative footing will help
    guide the courts and ultimately juries; it is the opinion of the Commission that
    juries should be provided with direction with regard to these elements rather
    than simply being asked to base their decision on a test of reasonableness. By
    introducing a more structured test to the defence of legitimate defence and in
    particular to the defence of the person, rather than the generalised
    17 Codifying the Criminal Law, Report of the Expert Group on the Codification of the
    Criminal Law (Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform 2004), paragraph
    2.90.
    18 Ashworth Principles of Criminal Law 5th ed (Oxford 2006) at 139.
    32
    „reasonableness‟ approach, court decisions will prove to be more consistent and
    principled, as well as guiding citizens in terms of their conduct.
    2.27 The Commission has therefore concluded that, on the basis of the
    rights-based analysis above and subject to the specific conditions of the
    defence of legitimate defence to be set out below, it should be clearly stated
    that a person does not commit an offence where he or she uses force by way of
    defence to the use of unlawful force by another person. The Commission also
    recommends that, pending the completion of the codification of all the defences
    in criminal law, this general statement of the defence should be without
    prejudice to the provisions in sections 18 to 22 of the Non-Fatal Offences
    Against the Person Act 1997.
    2.28 The Commission recommends that, subject to the specific conditions
    of the defence of legitimate defence set out below, it should be clearly stated
    that a person does not commit an offence where he or she uses force by way of
    efence to the use of unlawful force by another person
    p.32




    Given the inconsistencies that arise due to the varied sources of law
    governing self-defence, one of the primary purposes of this Report is to provide
    clarity. Certainty and precision can be achieved by clearly setting out rules of
    conduct through legislation. The primary recommendation is that we should
    move away from a generalised rule and establish clear and concise guidelines
    to deal with the law on the lawful use of force whether dealing with the defence
    of the person, property, preventing a crime or assisting in an arrest. Citizens
    have a right to clear guidance as to their conduct and more specifically; conduct
    that will not be tolerated. Everyone in society is aware of the general concept of
    „self defence‟ and that everyone has a right to protect themselves from attack.
    However, society is less clear on the boundaries of that right; it is those
    boundaries that need to be set down in legislation. Providing clear legislative
    guidelines by implementing a threshold test and clearly setting down jury
    direction with regard to the elements of imminence, necessity, proportionality
    will, hopefully, achieve that aim
    (p. 32)

    This view is based on the principle of legality; namely that conduct
    should not be punished unless it has been clearly and precisely prohibited by
    the terms of a pre-existing rule of law. The legality principle is a foundational
    principle of modern criminal law. Legality is usually associated with offences but
    can equally be applied to defences, by setting out what a citizen may or may not
    do. As with the offences in criminal law, there is a need for greater certainty in
    the law of criminal defences. Certainty in law provides security for citizens to
    rely on the law to be enforced for their protection and not to their detriment
    provided they keep within its boundaries.19 In this section, the Commission
    considers the arguments in favour and against setting a clear minimum
    standard for lawful use of force against a threat
    p. 33

    The question to be answered here is whether it is possible to identify
    a minimum level of threat to the person which would justify, in particular, lethal
    defensive force? For example, does the threat have to be one of death or
    serious harm or is a threat of confinement for example, a sufficient threat to
    justify lethal defensive force? Broadly speaking two approaches to the issue of
    physical threats and a threshold requirement can be set out. The first approach
    involves defining a threshold test, while the second approach involves a
    generalised test of “reasonableness”
    p. 34

    ***By contrast, the “reasonableness” approach has been adopted in a
    number of States.
    p. 35



    ****2.43 The „reasonableness‟ approach was placed on a statutory footing in
    both Tasmania and New Zealand, in the Tasmanian Criminal Code33 and the
    New Zealand Crimes Act 196134 respectively. The New Zealand Court of
    Appeal held in R v Kneale35 that the threshold requirement had been abolished
    in favour of a reasonableness approach whereby the “seriousness of the threat
    or attack is relevant at the point of determining the reasonableness of the
    response.”36
    2.44 The Commission‟s proposed recommendation to abandon the
    generalised „reasonableness‟ test in favour of a threshold test, was subject to
    critique during the consultation process. The principal argument against such a
    requirement was that it does not allow a person to react to the prevailing
    circumstances, as the person perceives or understands them to be. It was
    suggested that a person must be allowed to react reasonably to the threat he or
    she perceives or understands it to be, regardless of how another might perceive
    or understand the threat to be. Thus a subjective approach should be adopted
    on the basis that people‟s responses to threats or perceived threats differ.
    p. 36

    2.45 Such concerns are also evident in recommendations made by some
    of the Canadian law reform bodies who have recommended that a specific
    threshold test for lethal defensive force should be abandoned in favour of a
    general provision that applies to fatal and non-fatal force.37
    2.46 Nonetheless, the Commission believes the argument in favour of
    setting a minimum threshold requirement is persuasive. The Commission
    believes that limitations should be specified in clear rules rather than based on
    a concept of “reasonableness”. Citizens are entitled to detailed guidance on the
    32 (1987) 71 ALR 641 at 661.
    33 Section 46 Tasmanian Criminal Code.
    34 Section 48 New Zealand Crimes Act 1961.
    35 R v Kneale [1998] 2 NZLR 169.
    36 R v Kneale [1998] 2 NZLR 169 at 178.
    37 See the Law Commission of Canada Working Paper on Criminal Law: the general
    part – liability and defences (No. 29 1982); Law Commission of Canada Report
    on Recodifying Criminal Law (No 31 1987).
    37
    proper limits of what he or she can lawfully do. Setting a minimum threshold to
    the law on legitimate defence goes someone to achieving that

    P. 36-37




    However, the
    Commission does make the point that lethal defensive force for the protection of
    a third party should only be lawful where the person who is being defended
    could also have used such force. Any hardship caused in this regard would be
    alleviated by allowing for mistakes in this respect.
    P. 43


    2.53 Despite arguments in favour of a generalised test of
    “reasonableness” the Commission recommends that a minimum threshold
    requirement should be imposed on the use of lethal defensive force. Members
    41 See generally section 48 of the New Zealand Crimes Act 1961; Queensland
    Criminal Code, section 273; Western Australian Criminal Code, section 250;
    Tasmanian Criminal Code, section 46; Northern Territory Criminal Code, sections
    27(g) and 28(f); South Australian Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935, section
    15(3)(a); Commonwealth Criminal Code, section 10.4(2)(a) and (b); Australian
    Capital Territory Criminal Code 2002, section 42(2)(a)(i); section 3.05 of the US
    Model Penal Code.
    42 [1954] IR 12 at 17.
    43 LRC CP 41-2006, at paragraph 2.61.
    44 [2006] IECCA 165; [2007] 3 IR 130. See paragraph 2.16ff above.
    39
    of society have a right to clear criteria by which they can judge their conduct
    when making “spur of the moment” decisions. The Commission believes that
    the general test of “reasonableness”, as it currently stands, fails to achieve this.
    The Commission recognises that the term „reasonable‟ has its merits in terms of
    a general understanding of the word, when directing a jury, where self defence
    is raised. However, without clearly setting out the substantive requirements of
    the defence and imposing a minimum threshold test before the defence is
    raised, the Commission believes undeserving cases will continue to benefit from
    the defence.
    2.54 Threshold tests in their own right operate as a useful guide and a
    signpost for the whole community (including potential attackers, defenders as
    well as those who have to judge the actions of the defendant) as to the types of
    conduct that might warrant a lethal defensive response. By implementing a
    threshold test, potential defenders are put on notice as to the minimum
    requirements for successful pleas; juries are provided with a useful starting
    point for assessing claims of legitimate defence; and this supports the
    democratic function of drawing a clear line dividing acceptable and
    unacceptable defensive conduct.45
    2.55 Furthermore, the Commission believes it is important to send out a
    clear message regarding the sanctity of life. Imposing a minimum threshold
    requirement protects the right to life of the attacker as set out in the Article 40.3
    of the Constitution by demanding that lethal defensive force may not be
    resorted to in response to minor threats and attacks
    P. 39

    2.57 The Commission recommends that a minimum threshold requirement
    should be imposed on the use of private defensive force.
    45 LRC CP 41-2006, at paragraph 6.54.
    46 Under Sections 3.04 (2)(b) of the US Model Penal Code the use of lethal force is
    permitted in defence of the person only where necessary to repel threats of
    “death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force
    or threat”.
    40
    2.58 The Commission recommends that lethal defensive force by oneself
    or in protection of a third party should only be permitted to repel threats of:
    death or serious injury,
    rape or aggravated sexual assault,
    false imprisonment by force,
    and,
    PAGE 39-40


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    GOVERNMENT OF CANADA...comment on s. 11(g) at https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art11g.html#:~:text=Provision.%2011.%20Any%20person%20charged%20with%20an,law%20recognized%20by%20the%20community%20of%20nations;


    While analyzing the separate issue of vagueness in law, and not commenting directly on section 11(g), the Supreme Court has alluded to principles against retroactivity in criminal law as being related to the ancient Latin maxim nullum crimen sine lege, nulla poena sine lege: no crime without law, no punishment without law. The Court referred to the underlying purpose as being to ensure that citizens are able to foresee the consequences of their conduct so as to be given fair notice of what to avoid, and to limit the penal law discretion of the state (Lamer J. in a concurring opinion in Reference re section 193 and paragraph 195.1(1)(c) of the Criminal Code, [1990] 1 S.C.R. 1123 at paragraph 34, R. v. Levkovic, [2013] 2 S.C.R. 204 at paragraph 2, R. v. Poulin, 2019 SCC 47 at paragraph 59). This expression of purpose has been directly linked to section 11(g) in Front commun des personnes assistées sociales du Québec v. Canada (Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission), 2003 FCA 394.


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    2012, c. 9, s. 2 at https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/annualstatutes/2012_9/  ...Assented to 2012-06-28

    Bill C-26
    came into force 11 March 2013

    This guide describes the new laws of self-defence and defence of property in order to
    aid police and Crown prosecutors in their application of the law p. 6


    It is important to note that the core elements of the legislative reforms to self-defence
    were initially developed by a joint Federal/Provincial/Territorial (FPT) Working Group,
    whose recommendations were accepted by FPT Ministers responsible for Justice in
    2009. Similarly, this guide was developed jointly between federal Department of Justice
    officials and officials from a number of provincial Ministries of the Attorneys General. As
    a result, both the new laws and the interpretations proposed in this guide reflect the
    common understanding of FPT Justice officials. Therefore, while this guide is not
    binding on prosecutors or other criminal law practitioners, the use and adoption of its
    contents is encouraged. p. 7

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    Guide
    Bill C-26 (S.C. 2012 c. 9)
    Reforms to Self-Defence and
    Defence of Property:
    Technical Guide for Practitioners
    Department of Justice Canada
    March 2013
    at https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/pdf/c26.pdf

    In this respect, the new law includes a list of factors that could be taken into account to
    assess “reasonableness”. The list serves several purposes. It aims to make clear that
    certain jurisprudence applicable to the determination of a successful defence is
    intended to continue, as appropriate, under the new law. It also serves to provide some
    guidance about how the new law is intended to be applied by clarifying that some of the
    24
    elements of the old law that have been eliminated as determinative requirements
    nonetheless continue to be relevant. It may also serve as a useful reference for jury
    instructions
    p. 24

     Joanne Klineberg
    joanne.klineberg@justice.gc.ca

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    Parliament
    https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/41-1/c-26


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    On Hamish Stewart
    Stewart, Hamish, The Role of Reasonableness in Self-Defence (2003). Canadian Journal of Law and Jurisprudence, Vol. 16, p. 317, 2003, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=1623318
    Hamish Stewart, “The Constitution and the Right of Self-Defence” (2011) 61:4 UTLJ 899


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    on Colton Fehr
    Self-Defence and the Constitution., 2017 CanLIIDocs 3969

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    Principle of legality

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    The divergence of common law thinking from continental thinking
    on putative self-defense derives from a matrix of interrelated assump-
    tions. American lawyers tend to think of all available legal defenses
    as analogous, tend to assume that what is permissible is justified, and
    tend to view rights as trumpable claims. At the foundation of these
    assumptions lies the cement of reasonableness, a concept that enables
    20 (1968) (in cases of strict liability, where fault is not an issue, we have "the sense that an
    important principle has been sacrificed").
    1985]
    HARVARD LAW REVIEW
    Americans to blur distinctions between objective and subjective, self-
    defense and putative self-defense, wrongdoing and responsibility

    Right and reasonable at p. 979-980 https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2042&context=faculty_scholarship


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    It should be noted that this type of mandatory presumption is uncon-
    stitutional if reasonableness is an element of the offense or integrated in an
    element of the offense because it relieves the state of its burden of proving
    the elements of the offense. 0 '
    101. See, eg., Patterson,432 U.S. 197; Sandstrom, 442 U.S. 510; Francis,471 U.S. 307

    at p. 252 of https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1110&context=jleg

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    Consultation paper at https://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/consultation%20papers/cpLegitimateDefence.pdf997. at p. 5

    B Reasonableness and The Principle of Legality

    1.03 The starting point in identifying the rules which govern the
    defence of legitimate defence is the oft-quoted passage of the 1879 Criminal
    Law Commissioners:
    “We take one great principle of the common law to be, that
    though it sanctions the defence of a man’s person, liberty, and
    property against illegal violence, and permits the use of force to
    prevent crimes, to preserve the public peace, and to bring
    offenders to justice, yet all this is subject to the restriction that the
    force used is necessary; that is, that the mischief sought to be
    prevented could not be prevented by less violent means; and that
    the mischief done by, or which might reasonably be anticipated
    from the force used is not disproportioned to the injury or
    mischief which it is intended to prevent.”1
    1.04 Though this passage only touches upon some of the key issues
    which arise in legitimate defence, it stands in stark contrast to the
    1 (1879) C2345 at 11. The Commissioners were Lord Blackburn and Stephen, Lush
    and Barry JJ.



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    RCMP watchdog calls out 'unreasonable' use of force during wellness checks

    see https://www.cobp.resist.ca/fr/node/19922?page=30

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/crcc-wellness-rcmp-force-1.5657866
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    Bureau des enquêtes indépendantes (BEI), Chantel Moore, New Brunswick
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/chantel-moore-no-charges-officer-shooting-police-1.6056025


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